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by Preston on 06 January 2008 - 19:01

Sales and new recruits have lagged?  So we must bump the thread up again to attempt get free advertising for a non-GSD breed on a GSD breed forum? Anyone who tries to argue that the so called, breeder named "Shiloh Shepherd" is an improvement on the GSD in anyway is blowing smoke.  To argue that the Shiloh Shepherd is an improvemnt to the GSD breed is like arguing that a complete and total perversion of the GSD is good and is an improvement over the FCI/SV breed standard.  It is like saying white is black, etc. 

Call the 100+pound lap dogs what you will, but don't discredit yourself as a public figure by trying to compare them to the FCI/SV GSD breed in anyway, because Shilohs are inferior in everyway in general--gross perversions of the FCI/SV GSD breed and the standard it is based on.  Let's face it, just how self-serving can one get when it comes to this seemingly narcissistic self promotion of the aborted perversion of the FCI/SV GSD? Pretty much or so it seems. I suggest that it is best to promote and advertise this Shiloh Shepherd breed only on Shiloh web sites and forums and not on a GSD forum, especially since hyou have designated this so-called Shiloh Shepherd to be completely separate from the FCI/SV GSD breed standard.  To do otherwise is about as inappropriate as one can be. 

Seems that your game here is far to transparent to think that you can con legitimate lovers of the one and only true GSD breed as defined in the FCI/SV standard.

Funny thing is that even though there seems to be a huge difference and lots of disagreements between FCI/SV working line and showline GSD breeders, trainers and exhibitors, there really isn't much basic disagreement about the FCI/SV GSD breed standard.  Yep, amazing fact that the working line types abd showline types both submit to the same breed authorities (FCI/SV/WDA) and accept and live by the rating rules such as AD, BH, Koerklasse breed survey system, show rating system, Shutzhund and IPO titles, etc., etc.  Yep, they all agree on the FCI/SV standard even though their preferences and emphasis on certain parts may differ. And yep, there are a number of working line top rated Bundesieger Profund GSDs that have received the KK1 and SG and V ratings! And also some zuchschau GSDs that do very well in Schutzhund!

I think your marketing efforts would be best served on sites not featuring true FCI/SV GSDs. Folks who come here for info on the so-called Shiloh Shepherd will see a lot of information that will hurt your sales, IMO.  Probably best to promote elsewhere.


sueincc

by sueincc on 07 January 2008 - 00:01

  Well said, Preston and Nia, well said.

 


by pashabasher1 on 11 January 2008 - 22:01

The king shepherd was bred by a woman who wanted german shepherds that looked like she remembered them when she lived in germany eg with straight backs and some with longer hair and larger in size and weight so she crossed multiple breeds together and then now we have the king shepherd and the shiloh shepherd which also another large variation of the GSD.


by Tina M. Barber on 25 February 2008 - 14:02

 

<<The king shepherd was bred by a woman who wanted german shepherds that looked like she remembered them when she lived in germany >>

 

WRONG!  I highly doubt that Shelly ever "lived' in Germany!!  If you guys want to talk about the King's or Shiloh's  -- please get your FACTS right!!  That's all anyone can expect ... not gossip, or false innuendo!!   http://shilohshepherds.info/


sueincc

by sueincc on 25 February 2008 - 15:02

First off, going to Tina's site (person who started the mix) is the last place anyone should go if they want  unbiased opinions or facts about this mix.  Second, this is a GSD message board, and you know how we feel about the Shiloh/King.  We see it as a mistake.  You can talk until the cows come home,  nobody is going to be so silly as to believe any nonsense about Shilohs/kings being the original GSD, let alone what Max had in mind.  Perhaps if you ask Oli, he will add Shiloh & King to the list of breeds, that way you will have a PedigreeDataBase message board.


Mystere

by Mystere on 25 February 2008 - 19:02

Sue is absolutely correct:  this is a gsd board and those who want to tout their non-gsd breed choices, such as the King/Shiloh shepherd  should ask for their own message board. Oli has LOTS of diffrent breeds accommodated, including some rare ones like Podengos.   As for the hizzy-fit over lumping Shilohs and Kings in the same nutshell, they are BOTH peas in a pod.  It doesn't matter what you call them, and there is less difference between them than between Coke and Pepsi, just that both have more carbonation than RC.    Actually, I guess in that scenario the European show and working lines are the Coke or Pepsi and the King/Shilohs are the RC.    To each his/her own taste.


sueincc

by sueincc on 25 February 2008 - 22:02

AHAHAHA coke & pepsi!!!!!


by Preston on 25 February 2008 - 23:02

Sales are sooo slow again.  So she's back for more promo.  Funny thing is though, anyone reading this stuff on this site will get hold of the truth very quickly and will run from the idea of purchasing one of these gross perversions of the world's best dog breed.  Some people are so self serving they just never get it at all !


by Speaknow on 25 February 2008 - 23:02

Nice point earlier, Preston, about how ‘working’ and ‘show’ GSD’s both exist (and thrive?) under same Standard. One could open a whole can of worms on that score alone, probably … Except in that this is meant to be a GSD forum, can’t get all that excited otherwise though. Let’s face it, from a scientific viewpoint the whole concept of ‘purebred’ is pretty tenuous. In its early stages critics probably labeled our dog as a mutt as well. To some degree it's only playing with words? - inbred for purebred; hybrid vigor for mutt?

by harddawg on 25 February 2008 - 23:02

They sure are some ugly bastards! Look like a cross between a GSD, Collie and maybe a little bit of horse.






 


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