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by Blitzen on 18 July 2007 - 02:07

Dogabaris, you Pixie is very pretty and she looks like an athletic and agile dog. Good luck with her.


dogabaris

by dogabaris on 18 July 2007 - 06:07

Thank you,

She was not at her best coat when the photo was taken, Yes she is prety athletic, in İstanbul championship she was at the 3rd place at the begining of the compatation but when they startred to trot, judge Hans Joachim - Dux puted her to the first place and he said "normally she deserves the 3rd place but these are working dogs so i put her in first place because of her performance"

Anyway this is not the subject of the title, excuse me and please go on :)


by Blitzen on 18 July 2007 - 13:07

The judge was right I think. Too many short legged, heavy bodied GSD's today. They are not athletic and agile enough to tend sheep 24/7. Keep up the good work in Turkey.


dogabaris

by dogabaris on 19 July 2007 - 10:07

Thank you,

You're invited if you'd like to see the developing in Turkey :)

This invitation includes all of you.


by Blitzen on 19 July 2007 - 13:07

Thanks for the invite, but I don't sit inside a moving plane for more than 2 hours .


DesertRangers

by DesertRangers on 19 July 2007 - 23:07

Ok I have been gone all week but got back and skimmed thru all the posts and picked up the word hatred being used.

everyone needs to understand hatred has nothing to do with my defense of America and my position about Muslims. when attacked you have to defend yourself against the enemy period. i have nothing personal against Muslims nor do i hate them but i do regard the majority of them as enemies of America and the civilized world. if all the terrorists were some other religion or group i would state the need to defend ourselves against them. Again, my problem with all muslims is the very few who are speaking out the the terror. Plus as the terrorists live among them and they do not root them out leaves the impression that they approve of the terror.  during the cruscades the catholic church did  violence and yes that was wrong, I would have been against them too. Instead of calling me names people need to think and ask why are we not seeing more Muslims standing up against the terrorists?

i call people stupid because i really think they are acting that way. cruel people like hitler etc managed to gain power and control because the masses did not stand up and stop them. I see many of you acting the same way and not realizing being able to see the risk we are under. it is easy to think some people are not evil but that is a huge mistake. evil does exist.

As for muslims; once, if ever they stop their fellow muslims from committing terror then i would gladly break bread with them, in fact i keep hoping they will but so far remain very disappointed with them. I would love to be proved wrong but honestly dont think i am.

it bothers me to see our soldiers being killed when we have the ability and power to finish off the enemy but due to politicial correctness we are not being aggressive enough. At some point they will attack us again and once we are hit hard enough then we will step up the action and finish them off.  When they do hit us again the sue the majority of American will call foe harsh measures!

 

 


by earthblues on 20 July 2007 - 08:07

right on !!!


by matthews3662 on 20 July 2007 - 18:07

Don't take it that far.

In my area it is a big deal all owners have to unchain dogs. dogs have to be in shady area with water and food at all times if that is where dog is going to be outside 24/7.

It prevents collars  becoming embedded, excessive barking, lack of shade , chain becoming tangled, chain choking animal to death, animal dying from the heat, and ensures dog is getting enough attention and love by being part of the family every day.

And people being bit if say a child wonders off and get lost in someone else yard, heaven forbid.

An innocent thread since there is law's againist chaining dogs now.

The picture submitted by other user shows a huge hole where dog is trying to  make shade and shelter is not good enough, and seems to be tangled away from shelter and it was just a question.

A dog can protect property if inside home. What can a dog do tied away from the home? Nothing. Just bark. Wonder if the homeowners are gone? Robber gets what he wants and leaves.


by matthews3662 on 20 July 2007 - 19:07

Unfortunely, dogs can't tell a person how it feels.

 


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 20 July 2007 - 20:07

I don't like tieouts. Okay, it does depend on the circumstances. We tied our GSD out because we had no fence, and were renting. She was physically attached to the house, and could push the door open if she wanted in. Still, the potential was there for her hanging herself. (I was too dumb to realize this, only do so now after reading about it on these forums.) She got lots of human attention, and slept inside the house at night. She was never left outside when we weren't home.

My relatives on the farm tie their dogs or confine them when they go away somewhere. This is to protect the home, and to protect the dog  from wandering off and becoming road kill, or worrying someone's livestock. The rest of the time, the dogs have freedom to come and go as they please. Most are allowed on the lower level of the house, especially in bad weather, others are not, but at least have a bed or doghouse somewhere where they can be warm and dry. (I fully understand not wanting a dog that's been running loose on the farm sharing my bedroom with me at night.)

My rescue...different story. Tied to an 8 ft. chain 24/7. Choke chain became embedded in his neck, and had to be yanked free. I assume a leather collar was put over top of the infected wound, because the collar stank so bad I had to throw it out after I brought him home. He had very little contact with people, as his owner worked long hours. After the owner's other dog died, he had no contact with other canines for three years. He also had no toys to play with other than the rocks which were buried in the sand around his dog house. He wore his teeth quite badly playing with those. Unlike the dog in this picture, at least he had shade, and there were no obstructions he could wrap his chain around that would prevent him from reaching his water dish or dog house. He was tied about 30 feet away from the house, so the only way he could protect the house was by barking an alarm, which isn't a lot of good if there is no one home to hear it. This was a home on a lake in the Gatineau area of Quebec, so the closest neighbours weren't near enough to see the house. I really don't understand the logic of keeping a dog in these conditions, and calling it a 'watchdog'. If you're going to have a dog for protection, fence your house, and put the dog in the yard, for pete's sake, so it can do a proper job of keeping intruders away from the house!! The owner eventually put a burglar alarm in the house, and said, since the dog no longer had a job, he was going to shoot it if no one wanted it as a pet. (And, of course, that was where I entered the picture, and took him home.)

I have a friend who is something of an expert in canine behaviour. She says dogs tied out and isolated from human contact. usually go one of two ways: they become vicious, and want nothing to do with humans, or they become starved for affection. Fortunately, Ranger went the other way. He's not clingy, just a real sucker for attention and petting. I took him to our church picnic on Sunday: kids running and screaming, crowds of people jammed into the picnic shelter during a thunderstorm. lots of noise. He loved every minute of it, though I had to warn the kids not to let him get too close to any of the balls they were playing with!






 


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