German Shepherd dog

Join the conversation about this breeder. She has been all over the posts lately. Did you call AKC to see if the litter was even registered? Did you ask her about it? There could be a reason for a legitimate delay, but the breeder is the only one who knows that probably. For what it is worth, trust is not a word that comes to mind when thinking about the business dealings of this person/kennel.

Thanks Hodie,  I've tried to contact the breeder several times lately with no reply, so just wanted to see if anyone out there knew if or why the bitch/dam is not AKC herself, because after I got the pup I found the bitch "Barbel" herself on someone elses website for sale "cheap due to special circumstances",  makes me wonder if for some reason she can't be AKC reg. herself, meaning neither can any of her pups. 

I just looked Bärbel vom Ahornborn up thru AKC and she doesn't come up in their database of registered dogs.

Thanks k9sar,  I'm just wondering if for some reason she can't be registered. Guess time will tell!  I also sold a total of 3 females and one male to rockinr, and within 2 weeks she sold two of the three females to other people, and after begging me to sell the male to her she put him up for sale too, and sold him after only having him two weeks. Seems to be somewhat of a "horse trader" for dogs.

It's possible there's a delay for a number of reason in dealing with foreign dog registrations; it's not uncommon.  Where I'd worry is when the breeder conveniently removes herself from keeping you informed even if there is no status update since the last time you spoke.  It's common courtesy and helps the buyers "relax" BUT with all hell breaking loose on new threads daily about this particluar breeder I'd definately be concerned at this point and do a little investigating on my own with the AKC if I were you.

 Cmills,

I understand. It was nice of you to try to help. However, one must check out someone before buying or selling because people like this do buy dogs only to turn right around and sell them at the drop of a hat. If you saw her web site, and you saw what a joke the working photos are (or were), if you knew about what good work was, that might have been a clue right there. I just hope it works out for you. Others will give you good advice here too, but it is a simple thing to check with AKC to see if the dam and sire are registered and if the litter is registered. Also, assuming you can get an answer from this person, ask for an explanation. I import dogs often from Europe and I have NEVER not gotten papers within a few months and normally, they come with the dog or pup. But I know reputable people and only deal with reputable people AND, I also know what kinds of situations can cause a legit delay in paperwork, vs, not. I look at all the paperwork first as well. That can be a warning if all the ducks are not in a row there.

Good luck.

I do not know this kennel owner but delays in paperwork do happen.

If her import dog did not come with a Bescheinigung then she had to get one from the breeder. This can take up to a month

for the SV to process then mail here. If not the SV could take longer.  Then this had to be sent to the AKC along with a

foreign dog registration and dna registration. In many cases the AKC will reject the DNA SAYING THAT THERE ARE NOT

ENOUGH CELLS ON THE SWAB!

Then the AKC mails a new kit to the breeder to redo the dna with a different kind of kit and they wait another month. If the

AKC has a BETTER kind of swab then why not use it the 1st time??? Thats another topic!

So yes;  delays are possible. If a breeder returns your phone calls and emails in a reasonable period of time then they are

not hiding anything and are just waiting for the papers. Keep in touch with the breeder weekly to check status and request

that the papers be sent priority mail when issued.  

Most imports I have registered have taken up to 6 months to get everything straight. Jeff

Mine took 9 months. The sire was an import, and had to be DNA'd, and the samples kept getting lost, or coming up blank. The orignal owner had moved from where he'd been when the dog was first registered with the SV, so it took some time to prove this WAS the same dog.

Add in a few other assorted screw-ups, plus bureaucratic red tape, and it all added up to 9 months. I still think the breeder is a nice guy, just not very good at paperwork. However, I will never again purchase a dog unless the papers can be given to me at the time of purchase.

I recall that Igel was in SW Missouri at one time and owned by a puppy miller in Clever, MO.

The guy and lady who owned him were real nuts.

They could never get Igel to work that's why he's never gone any further than Sch.I that I'm aware of. Everyone had to remove their dogs from the side of the field cuz Igel would not perform with another dog present.

It's possible that they had not done the dna on the import that is required by the AKC before the litter can be registered.  It's also possible that if they did send in the dna it did not take and they had to do another swab....this happend to me with my Agar and that held things up a little bit longer but I'd say the entire process including the "unexpected delays" took about 6 months.

Hi CM Mills,

I am the person who sold Barbel.  She is an extremely well bred, solid female and very AKC registrable.  No question.  The pink papers went with her to Rockinrkranch.  In my dealings with the lady who bought her, I certainly sensed she would do good with Barbel. 

Like others have said, it can take up to 6 months to process the pink papers through AKC.  I personally have been waiting for 3 weeks now for some DNA swabs.  

Also, Barbel was worth much more money, I had to sell her due to a divorce.

You are very welcome to call me if you would like to talk further...

Susan 970-443-1327

Yes when I talked to Windy last, she said that Amelia was now in heat and she had not heard from RNR. She sent her a registered certified letter giving her until the end of the month to respond. I'm sure Kristen will ignore her just like she has ignored everyone else. I think Kristen has until tomorrow to respond or Amelia was going to a companion home.

Debbie