ARE WE ONE HAPPY FAMILY NOW? - Page 10

I get it now, it is about splitting up the breed. But we are not splitting the breed up. All we are doing instead is giving show people a place to talk. The breed is split by the organizations that control the breed. the breed is German shepherd.

If I decide to change my mind-I will have zero tolerance for TOS violations. Because again it is not about show people complaining about working people it is more about the fear of being attacked and the fear to post here. I had members that have never posted here write me and say they signed up in 2008 and they would never post here because of all the attacks and fighting. So, because a group is against this they are dismissing all those people like they are nothing. Calling them babies and whiners, like they are trash and have absolutely no opinion. I would bet that close to half are fellow working dog people but again they are also afraid to post.

They said it not me.


What about all the forums who have 30 or more sections, are they somehow responsible for splitting up the breed? What about forums named working dog are they splitting the breed because they are excluding show lines? It is funny how you all preach this but you frequent working sites that do not really allow show people. It seems a little hypocritical to me. I can name at least 2 forums who call themselves working dog forums so are they splitting up the breed and if so why do you frequent them? Or is that somehow different?

How come none of you lafora or workingdog people are at those forums complaining about how they are splitting up the breed and excluding show people? But you see giving the show folks a forum as splitting up the breed.  Talk about segregation and splitting up a breed. Those forums sure appear to draw a line in the sand. No?

Wow, ok??????????   I guess I missed something, splitting the breed????????????   I think it may be just a little presumptuous to think this forum or any other forum had anything to do with splitting the breed. 

Then why keep saying it. GSDtravels mentioned it last night and then again today. It has been mentioned by more than one person so that is where it comes from.

So what is the real issue here, I keep trying to find it but instead I get double talk and a constantly changing reason.

How come none of you lafora or workingdog people are at those forums complaining about how they are splitting up the breed and excluding show people? But you see giving the show folks a forum as splitting up the breed. Talk about segregation and splitting up a breed. Those forums sure appear to draw a line in the sand. No?

Because, this place is so much more entertaining.  I guess they are on other forums, I'll go check and see how they are doing.

 

GSDadmin,
Don't get all wrapped around the axle.  You need to relax and just let it go.  Things have a way of working themselves out.  Water seeks it's own level and it will all even out.  Have I mentioned the book "Who moved my cheese?"  It is a very quick read and very worth while, check it out.  Change can be very good. 

Wait, if we are ruining things because we give show people a place to speak, why are those working dog forums excluding show people? And isn't that splitting up the breed, driving a wedge between the 2 groups?

I have read more than once how this show forum is splitting up the breed but the working associations and forums are doing a great job on their own and they get plenty of help by your membership fees and visits.

I need to let it go but you guys can keep on about how blah blah blah is ruining the forum and splitting the breed and then dismissing people who are sincerely afraid to post here. I have heard them called crybabies and whiners even though part are working people.

I have read cheese numerous times, probably more than you have. Change is never easy and is compounded when folks see the people they respect bucking that change.

So, again I ask if we are somehow splitting the breed, what are the "working" named forums doing? Putting it back together?

500 people on site for those who believe no one is here.

Why are you making YOURSELF crazy?????  If people are too afraid to post, then this may not be the place for them... so what?  This WAS the one place where the split could be argued, debated, dissectected and at times, reasonably discussed!  THAT'S why people came here.  This forum is not the reason for the split in the breed, but it was the one place people could come to discuss that split and yes, even argue about it and with heated arguments, comes bashing!  When attacks become personal, that's where moderation should intercede.  But now it's become so politcally correct, it's no longer the same.

Yes, people bitched about the fighting but it's also what brought them here and I don't know how you don't get that.  It's human nature to argue, debate, present sides and at times, maybe even change your mind about a few things!  There's a lot of passion for this breed and so passion in opinions.  If people are so thin skinned, well...

If this is the way it's going, just go and stop analyzing and whining!  Like Jim said, it's a change and eventually, people will get used to it or find another venue.

And why are you so concerned about what goes on with the other boards?  You act like this is the be all, end all and if someone doesn't like something, you're going to get to the root of the problem!  Sometimes, you just have to go the way you're going stop worrying about it.  You're the one who's making such an issue out of it and it's ridiculous that it's gone on as long as it has.  Holy shit!

You take this whole thing way too seriously and way too personally.  I would suggest locking this thread, and just see what happens.  Give the change some time.  I have said several times the Conformation forum is a good idea and should be popular.  Leave "Chaz's forum" alone and perhaps it will pick up.  Give it a month or two.  Maybe Chaz will get his verve back and post some interesting topics like he did to get the Training forum going.  Time will tell, if it takes off great if not it is no big deal you tried something new. 

I say we stop talking about it and see what happens.