Examples of Correct Features - Page 3

I have a feeling that close up head shots of most of the Siegers and Siegerins would show dogs with loose jowls. It is very common in this breed and in many other breeds. I've owned dogs with loose jowls and never noticed that they caused any health issues. In my experience it is more a cosmetic issue than a health issue. It's ugly to be sure, but not a big deal to me. 

If you're talking  a very loose jowl with pendulous upper lips like a Berner or Newfie, then I think that's a different story. Most of those dogs have "wet mouths" and drool 24/7. I don't know their breed standards well enough to know if that is acceptable or not.  I've never seen a GSD with loose jowls to that extent. I was cured of ever wanting a newfie years ago when I showed one for a friend. He spent the night in my kitchen and in the morning the walls were adorned with dog snot.

Most dogs shown in this thread have loose jowls including the one I posted. That head shot was used by the GSDCA to represent "ideal female head". Sometimes loose jowls are more obvious when the dog is panting so you might not notice it when their mouths are tightly closed. BTW this bitch was a Sch3, IPO3 and a UD, so I assume her loose jowls didn't  hinder her ability to bite or to retrieve heavy dumbells.

   
OK, how about a discussion on pasterns and feet - too long, too short, too weak, to upright....?

The correct angle is 22 degrees - also the foot should ride on top of the pads and not behind.

Does anyone have any other photos.....to compare?

Could you start a new thread about pastern please? Good topic!! Another GSD characteristic that is unique to the breed.

If you start a new thread then I suggest pasterns and feet as some problems of feet come from wrong pasterns.

Ibrahim

Sorry,
the title of this thread doesn't state this was a heads only topic.

There is no harm if you decide not to make a new thread but maybe the head features and examples contribution is not over yet, what you think?

Ibrahim

I am picky about feet especially since I started out working dogs before conformation. My female has flat feet but strong pasterns. I love a dog with nice tight round paws. My 15 month old has awesome feet and what I consider to be perfect pasterns. They are strong, nice length and sloped just a bit but not too much nor to weak in length or bone. I also think I have seen many dogs with less length of back that are more square having pasterns of to upright an angle and I feel this is improper shock absorbtion, flex, and sets the shoulder inncorrectly. I do not care for long weak over sloped pasterns which I have been seeing mostly on many american AKC show lines.
This is an example of what I consider to be terrible pasterns, not a dog I own:

   http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=654701

 
 
  I was raised riding eventers and I think one horse advice also fits dogs. If it has bad legs, you have no horse.

 



  

Above pasterns are close to 40 degrees which is too exagerated, the hocks are a bit long, feet and toes look just okay to me bot not the best.

Ibrahim

Ok, I was wrong.

Example of less angulated pastern resulting in flat feet.