The Truth about Some Imported dogs!? - Page 3

What the point here is that it matters not to which country to go to for dogs there are some very good ones and some very bad ones, The thing is always do your homework If anyone does not answer your inquires in a very short time and answer them correctly in the way it should be to satisfy you then walk away
Phone if you can and again if they do not have the time to give you then walk away, Get to know the people you are going to deal with, Phone them at awkward hours and see what reaction you get a genuine person may not be happy at being phoned at an abnormal time say of the night but if they are genuine and layed back and you need to be with animals then they will not show it when speaking on the phone little things tell you much about a person and above all trust your instincts I am not a psychologist but thats how i go about things
No good breeder will not answer every question right out and they will always have time for you
Being in another country like the USA is difficult we have it much easier over here for we can vist and to be honest you only need the first vist to know
 For me i look no further than the country i live in and it is easy everything i want is here Dogs Quality and facilities, I do not need to go outside Belgium to find a great bred dog for whatever purpose it is to be used for,  I know how the best operate there kennels and i know who is who but then i do not live in the USA so that means nothing to you Guys and i too would want to be careful if i lived over there i know you do not have it easy in that respect
Steve1

The additional thing, Steve, is that you are in a position quite often to know and see the parents and siblings. You also have access to folks in other clubs who can report on siblings. Belgium is a much smaller country. I live in a state that is a five-hour drive north to south and about 7-8 east to west. That is just the state. It is a five-hour FLIGHT to cross the region east to west. So, we must rely on the opinions and observations of trusted friends...and sometimes "the kindness of strangers" to find out the true "skinny" about dogs and their progeny.

Mystere
Excactly, I know i am very lucky
i can travel from north to south of Belgium in three hours and East to West in 4.30 hours that is the size of the whole country
I know it must be difficult for you who live in a big country and so far away from possible Dogs you may be interested in, It is down to the Breeder you pick i guess there are a ,lot of bad ones all over i have been lucky to miss them
Steve1

I've missed the bad breeders, too. At least, I have since 1992. My first sch dog was from a rat who apparently faked AKC registrations, bred a bitch that was severely dysplastic in one hipe, etc. There were 7 pups born, but at least 11 registered in the litter. I was lucky: the bitch appeared to be one of the "original 7" and had great working ability and temperament. Her hips were also good. But, it was sheer luck!

lol  it's all about the money. They see us as an endless pit of money that they can dump on  Look at China and the stuff they send here. I am sure there have been some good dogs brought in but I think what makes he dogs in Europe better is just numbers. The number of clubs and the number of helpers, the number of dogs, and the numbers of quality experiences a dog can have by the time they are 24 months old. They can literally see bite work from a quality helper (which in most clubs in German, Holland and Belgium have many quality helpers) many times a day 7 days a week. Here thats just no going to happen. America is a big country and we travel soooooo  long to work and train dogs It all about the numbers and the $'s. We let them do it to us. Stop buying dogs from Europe for a year or so and watch the prices fall like a rock and the quality go up. Unless its for a specific bloodline there is no reason to ever import a pup. There are just as many good if not better working line pups born here, its the training these pups receive thats the difference.

I have a question  that is similar to this subject I am sure I am going to get bashed for this but going to ask anyway. If Donald  Trump goes around the world and buys the GREATEST dogs the world has to offer from the GREATEST Kennels in the world and his kennel will call it vom Trump,and  vom Trump kennels breeds there very expensive imports and has great success with many litters several going to WUSV etc.. so forth and so on. Does that make vom Trump Kennels(Donald Trump) a great dog breeder or just a rich man with lots of money to throw around and his success is from replicating others success?Now I know that we are not trying to reinvent the wheel here, but wouldn't you want your kennel to stand out as your own breeding program your own ability to take certain lines and match them up to produce certain traits that are unique to your breeding program? I am not by any means knocking imported dogs but in every avenue in the US we preach buy American until it comes to are dogs!!!!    Just a thought

I think it would be von Trump.

Thank you Keith my mistake you are right kennel von Trump LOL has a ring to it maybe should consider asking Mr. Trump to be business partner!!!!! LOL

I would never buy a dog/pup sight unseen.

Lets suppose that the seller is as honest as Abe.  even still your high drive may not be my high drive.  Your def of hard may not be mine.  There are different opinions if we are on the training field at the same time watching the same dog work.

Now add into the mix the fact that if the person is not honest whatever they mail you , you are stuck with  and you have no recourse and the seller knows it. 

This already happens to people buying in the US from sellers in the US.

I am not saying the ones shipped are all duds.  You would probably have to have really good sources and connections to get a dog that fits the origional discription. 

If someone wanted to sell the cull pups whatbettrer way to sell them than in the mail.  Me myself I think they should go to pet homes.

Robert