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Rik

by Rik on 27 March 2009 - 00:03

grgtwnbaxley, let me get this straight, you have bred GSD's for 30 years but don't know where sables come from. And you are calling me an idiot.

You will get one from the Easter bunny before you get one from parents that neither is sable.

Oh, and by the way, you breed dogs that don't work, don't compete in any type sport or even conform to the standard of your chosen breed and you come here and call yourself a "breeder". You are just another POS puppy mill pumping out pups for the pet market.

Best,
Rik 

Pearliewog

by Pearliewog on 27 March 2009 - 00:03

SchHBabe, The color genetics paper you sent me one time is the reason for the question. I couldn't find anywhere on it where this scenario played out. Thanks!

Pearliewog

by Pearliewog on 27 March 2009 - 00:03

Mirasmom,
Yes, they both have AKC DNA on file.  Sorry to disappoint your assumption.
Kelly

Pearliewog

by Pearliewog on 27 March 2009 - 01:03

I asked the owner if either of the parents could be patterned sables.  She said she would get their coat color's DNA'd to find out. 

No, I have not seen either of the parents in person. 

I am wondering if maybe the puppies are not even sable.   I will ask her if I can post the puppy pics here.  I have seen the pics of the puppies and they actually look like a golden retreiver color (NOO, no Golden got to the female).  The pads of the puppy are pink.  Maybe a liver?

Thank you for the informative remarks as we did not think that two black/red's could produce sables either.



Pearliewog

by Pearliewog on 27 March 2009 - 01:03

Yellowrose,
No other dogs bred the female.  There isn't a sable on premises and my friend saw the male breed the female that she chose for her.  No, the female didn't get out.  No, no other dog got in with her - just to get those questions over with that someone else will inevitably ask.  I really really quizzed the owner about this scenario.
Kelly

Pearliewog

by Pearliewog on 27 March 2009 - 01:03

NANCY!!! THAT IS NOT MY FRIENDS DOG!  Yes I'm Yelling!  I really don't want those dogs confused with the ones the original thread was started about.  Nancy - WHAT are you talking about????  This really upsets me.  If you are talking to the other person that this thread has turned into being about PLEASE make that clear in your post!
Thank you!
Kelly

Pearliewog

by Pearliewog on 27 March 2009 - 01:03

Yellowrose,
Why are you getting so nasty?  I just asked a question because I KNEW the answer and wanted some other explanations.  My gosh!
What other sable I posted a couple days ago - I haven't posted in quite awhile about sables.  If you can tell me what your talking about I can explain maybe?
I am not like some people on this board.  No need to go getting accusatory before I've had a chance to answer!
Kelly

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black/red x black/red = sable puppy??????
by yellowrose of Texas on 26 March 2009 - 23:03

yellowrose of Texas

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sables don't come from black/red x black/red parents.  One of the dogs involved is not black/red..you are the one that needs to go dna a pair of dogs.  A high school drop out that studies Sable genes will know that.  Not gonna happen..Sable is not a mutation nor a recessive so it can't go traveling...You have a traveling salesman in your kennel..not a sable gene out of place..Someone did not identify the mom or dad correctly, if no sable male or female involved.  The pic you posted the other day in a sable thread was not a sable. Post the pedigree of this sable pup or dog you are posting this thread about. Please. We are all in the dark as to what you are calling a sable product. Post a pic of the two parents also.

If you have such a product , you better register it in the Book of New Discoveries..what is it called  Ginnus book of World Records, or Ripley's Believe it or Not???



Pearliewog

by Pearliewog on 27 March 2009 - 01:03

Well, thank you all for the beginning of the thread anyway.  It was turning out to be a good thread.  Then it all turned into a kill grgtwnbaxley thread.  Ok, I'm done.  When I find out what happened I'll try to post and let you all know.
Thanks
Kelly

BlackthornGSD

by BlackthornGSD on 27 March 2009 - 03:03


Newborn puppies sometimes have pink soles for a few days after birth. But if these puppies are older, and the pads are pink and the nose leather and around the eyes is pink/brown---sounds like a liver, not a sable.

If the pup is gold all over--it might not be a sable, but rather some sort of bt pattern with the black markings suppressed.

Pictures would be very helpful.



SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 27 March 2009 - 04:03

Kelly, the only reason this thread turned into a "beat up on gsdxdnts...baxley...whatever" thread is because of the bull-headed determination of this in-DUH-vidual to be *right* despite evidence to the contrary. There was a wise man who once said "Better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt". There is a time and a place for a graceful exit, so to speak. Believe me that my mouth is foot-shaped from the times I have myself lodged a foot therein. It takes more cajonies to walk away from a conflict than it does to keep a' swingin' when clearly "down in the count". -Yvette





 


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