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'I then adopted a 6 month old GSD off craigslist.'
Read as 'purchased'.

'Gunner was a massive dog. He was TALL and BIG.. At under 2 years old, he was a lean 110lbs. and just a BIG dog. I love BIG dogs. Something about them, i love them. My favorite non-gsd breed being Caucasian Mountain Dog/ Caucasian Ovcharka.....'

Emphasis on over size.

'So I am trying to find the breeder for Gunny George.'
^^^^^^That ^^^^^^^^^^^^↑^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^is what was seen as disgusting.
As I would love to have another LARGE Sable male.

SMH.

I did try to help. The OP decided to be dramatic in her response, accusing me (and others) of accusing her of things we weren't. I can't find anywhere I said she's a horrible person (or even thought it!) or a disgusting person or an ax murderer or anything like that. I tried to point out the folly in her request for the breeder and bloodlines of Gunner and made a few suggestions as to a better way to find a dog. She was stuck on the "don't chastise me in any way" part. Joan was a lot harsher and I think she lumped everyone in together who didn't say "oh, here, I'll find those dogs for you." Just my take. Don't ask for advice if you don't want some advice you won't like. 

Kitkat, Joan was admittedly very harsh, but I don't see her getting rid of dogs to make room for new females, so I think that comment was displaced. JMO. 

What is SMH?
 

My first purebred almost came from a pet shop. I was fortunate and met some members of a local kennel club who taught me about puppy mills, how to find a good breeder, etc.. They also invited me to join the club and that was my start in 45 years of continuous dog ownership.  I'm still friends with most of them. And that's all I have to say about that.

'So I asked not to be chastised because I anticipated people berating me for rehoming him.. not because I wanted a puppy.'

Rehoming a dog through 'rescue' is the right thing to do, if that's what happened. Nobody 'berated' you for that.
Nobody 'berated' you for wanting a puppy, either.
You seem to have missed the message people tried to convey to you. Read my last post, maybe it will help you understand the issue.
Private massage me if you'd like the contact information of the 'breeder' who I know of producing huge heads, Big -Bone gsd that are usually over sized. And they are sable to boot, sounds like he has all your boxes √√

Okay CKK, I went back and read all of the posts again. Where were you called disgusting once, twice?

No one is chastising you for giving the dog away, there are just some concerns about how you are wanting to go about getting another.

You said:

" I stated if a breeder with similar working size dogs is known that I would like to know them as well. It is in my first initial post. But sadly, all that seems to of been noticed was my desire for a dog that looks like Gunner."

But in your first post you ALSO said:

"So I am trying to find the breeder for Gunny George. As I would love to have another LARGE Sable male. I am going to include photos of Gunner :D... I loved his dark black face, sable coat, and big head :D.. i miss him so much... any help in finding his breeder would be amazing!"

It is absolutely clear that you wanted to go back to this SAME breeder to get the same type dog, that is the problem here. NOT the fact that you had to place him.

There is nothing wrong with wanting a puppy versus a rescue, unless you want to buy said puppy from a BYB or a Craigslist "breeder".

How do you know that when you buy a puppy that he/she is going to be a "lean 110lbs", "TALL and BIG", and have a "big head?" You don't. If you have to have all of those things, a puppy may turn out to be a disappointment for you.

I can see where you may have taken some of the other posts as being a little harsh, but just please keep in mind there are people on here that are very dedicated to breeding and raising quality GSDs. Even though I don't breed GSDs, I still get frustrated when people can't/won't see the nightmare of BYBs. In your case, working with shelter dogs, many on here(including myself) think you should know better than to go back and support the same breeder. You came on a website asking for assistance finding a BYB from people who take the breed seriously, then get upset when you get negative feedback. It is insulting I'm sure to the quality breeder.

Whichever path you go, I hope in the end you find what you are looking for. I really think you have good intentions, just on the wrong path :)

Jeni, you keep emphasizing that I was 'harsh'. Well OK, then op, I take everything I said back and I will set you up with the megaE producer of bad backs but by golly, he has over 25 years experience as a breeder and he has the popular Big-Bones with huge heads. And they are sable.
How's that Jenni, that's not harsh is it....see I can be sarcastic like you with your sarcasm.
And where did kitkat suggest that I get rid of dogs to make room for 'new females'? I've never in my entire life, purchased or brought in a 'Breeding Female'. In fact, I've never Dumped a retired Breeding Female into a "Forever" home. WTF are you suggesting? You say I was 'admittedly very harsh' ? Admitted where?

SMH!

Op, you never answered the question; how do you know for certain that the aggression issues causing gunner to have the wear a muzzle around you and your kids, was because of supposed 'abuse' that occurred prior to six months of age when you got him. How do you know that his aggression issues requiring him to wear a muzzle as an adult dog, while in the company of his family, was not of genetic origin? How did gunner show his 'loyalty' that you said you admired so much in him, yet he was not safe in the company of his family without wearing a muzzle? These are fair questions and if you don't want to answer them on this forum, at least consider them and think about what you are looking for from gunner's breeder. There are breeders that are members of this board who would love to get their hooks in you, if you don't see what the issue is with your request based on your posts.

Wow. This thread got heated and fast too.  First, to the OP, this forum is filled with members who are very passionate about the GSD and the breed standard as set by the breed's founder.  These breeders work very hard to promote the correct GSD.  It is very hard for them to see their hard work get undermined by the proliferation of puppy mills and BYB's.  In addition, this forum is filled with members who are long time owners and handlers and trainers of GSD's.  These are the folks with a ton of experience, and I love to sift through their opinions and shared knowledge as well.  So, please keep in mind that if you ask a question on this forum, you will get answers but not always the ones you'd like to hear.  All these folks are passionate and opinionated.  Frankly, you have to be both to want to post on an international forum of otherwise strangers.  I will agree that there is no call for rudeness, but communicating on a message board sometimes muddies up the pleasantries we might observe if we were face to face.

Now...I have agreed with Joanro and Jenni.  I am not a breeder, but recent threads from and about very questionable and definitely unethical breeders has made me plenty mad about the sad lives of the dogs that are kept by puppy mills and BYB's. Joanro and Jenni and other like-minded posts are right on the money with their advice to you.

Now for some extra points to consider...please think carefully about adding a puppy to your household. When I went looking for a GSD puppy in my mid-20s, I checked the classified ads in the newspaper, showed up at the "breeder's" house and saw 10, 8-week old puppies running around.  I took my Dad's advice and sought out the puppy with the biggest feet who was beating up all his brothers and sisters. LOL at myself now looking back! That puppy grew into an oversized, 100 lb plus, unneutered male with definite nerve and fear-aggression issues.  He lived with me all the way to the end of his life at 12 1/2, but it was not easy.  He could not be boarded so vacations were tricky.  He had to be sedated and muzzled at every vet visit.  But he was my PIA dog and I loved him.  My Dad thought he was the best GSD ever and loved him very much too. :)

Did I want another like him when he passed away?  No way!!!  So for my next GSD, I researched all the local, reputable breeders and went to a breeder with a good reputation for West German showlines.  My current dog has a much better temperament and nerves, very trainable, definitely aloof like the standard specifies but approachable. I can board him at a really great doggy day care place nearby and, although it is obvious he doesn't want to be at the vet's, he does not need to be muzzled or sedated for the visit.  BUT, he has severe environmental allergies that require $90 a month in medicine.

So, again, think carefully about what you want, what you have time for, and what you can afford.