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by maywood on 17 June 2012 - 18:06
Oh brother! Look dude, I didn't say he was ugly so quit putting words in my mouth. In fact he is a very handsome fella, a very nice puppy that you should be proud of. All I am saying is that in a general sense working line shepherds are just awful at conformation. That is all I am saying.
I normally don't even comment on these types of threads but last night I was a little intoxicated and a little pissed off, so sorry if I came across less than cordial.
by fasteddielv on 17 June 2012 - 18:06
by fasteddielv on 17 June 2012 - 18:06
I can understand the PUI (posting under the influence) last night, but what about todays post, oh never mind I don't really care. Piece out!
by maywood on 17 June 2012 - 18:06
by Psycht on 17 June 2012 - 18:06
Maywood,
Viaden posted the above quote, not Fasteddie....
by maywood on 17 June 2012 - 18:06
by EuroShepherd on 17 June 2012 - 18:06
I strongly disagree with Maywood's posts, and I own showline dogs. I have seen as many beautiful, good conformation workline dogs as I have seen beautiful, good conformation showlines. I have also seen as many showline dogs with bad conformation as working lines with bad conformation. There is plenty of good and bad in both boats.
Far too many V rated showlines should have never gotten their ratings and are not nearly as competent all-day trotters as most V rated working lines are.
You have your truth, Maywood...most of the rest of us have a different truth.
That being said...
Fasteddie, your pup does not have a very good topline, it is not a straight back. His withers are low, he has a significant dip both in front of and behind the withers, his lower back in the lumbar region has a slight roach and he has a steep croup (which is camoflaged by his tail set.) A very good topline can be seen in a dog whether he is stacked or not, but a poor topline can be camoflaged by a good stack (or extreme stack, as many Eurosport K9 dogs are.) It's not an awful topline, it shouldn't interfere with his ability to do anything (like extreme roach or swaybacks can) but it won't be favored in any show ring. However, since he is in a gangly growth-spurt stage there is a possibility that his topline can improve on it's own. When he is mature you can physically condition him with lots of gaiting, building and strengthening the back muscles which will help fill in the dips and level out his topline.
Other than the topline he's a very nice looking boy, very nice head, good pigment, very nice tight paws, good pasturns, good depth of chest, good hocks. I think the angulation of the rear legs seems pretty good (other than than the steep croup.)
by maywood on 17 June 2012 - 19:06
I use my shepherds for daily workouts. It is there job to keep me healthy. This means they have to be able to jog with me for up to an hour at a time DAILY. Workingline shepherds are simply not built properly to perform this type of work. And they certainly can’t handle it on a daily basis either. This is what I mean when I say they are generally awful at conformation.
by macrowe1 on 17 June 2012 - 19:06
by fasteddielv on 17 June 2012 - 19:06
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