One year old working line male - Page 2

his head will improve up to 2.5 years. he still has a pin head.....


if you draw a perpendicular line from the ground to his hock and another from his kneed up the thigh bone.....and then draw a line along his croup and another from his knee to his hock joint you will see it makes a parallelagram........this is a good thing....

he will only improve with age.....the only thing i don't like is how much his belly tucks up....

I'm don't find his tuckup extreme, personally.  I do like that it is a straight diagonal line, rather than the type of tuck up that shows with a deep chest and then a curve upward.  Tuckups like that make the waist look pinched.

His coat might very well improve. I've had some where their full coat doesn't really come in until about 2 years (one dog waited up to 3 years). I find the males are slower about this, too. I wouldn't worry about the coat or the head until he's about 3. JMHO

He has his dam's short, tight coat.  I doubt it will change.

His looks should not matter though I personally think he is a very handsome athletic looking dog. I do agree about his head. He is not conformation shown, breeding plans and titleing criteria has not been started,or is he trained for sport, and not a service dog anymore. She posted last night she is officially washing him out of being a service dog for which he was donated to her for. He could need more physical outlet than he is getting for this age/hormone level. Since he is working lines and is an adolesent who is having maturity at the same time as being told he has to be always sedate and quiet in the work of a service dogs duties. At that age period my young male service dog needed short bursts of training/working as one then I took him to off leash fenced areas near where I was conducting business a couple times a day for full out runs as well as training four times a week for schutzhund and he is a showline. I like this young male very much and think he would be alot of fun, I look at his build and go omg I bet he is like a bullet. I would like to see more substance and not a dip in his topline but that probably could all be helped with some muscle tone and weight. His head is not my type but for what it is it is proportionate to the rest of him and should look nice attached to him after maturity IMO.In all the photos over the year he always looks intent, under control, obedient, and focussed. I bet this would be a great dog to train and work. Maybe you could continue the agility dog competitions with him or something like you did with other dogs. He looks like he would be fast and agile. I think with time and some muscle tone he would be an awesome looking fellow.



Edited out comments copied from another site. mrdarcy (mod)

Sounds like this pup would be happiest in a working (schutzhund) home.  If he's not going to be able to do the work he was GIVEN to the owner for, he should be returned to the breeder/gifter so he can be placed in a more appropriate home where he would be happy and find out what his destiny is.

Mahler is happy, healthy, and going nowhere, and that's the end of it for me :)

  You can't work him, he'd be happier working and not stuck in the crate screaming 24/7 like he is right now.   think about the dog.what are you going to do with him?  what you describe is not a happy dog, and you are not happy with him.  I'm sure you will do what's right for the dog once you think about it a little.

Everything else aside, just reading the description that was apparantly written
elsewhere by the OP about the male, it would be best if he went to a home where
he could be happy. It would certainly lighten the stress load that he evidently
places on the handler right now.

The dog certainly doesn't sound like he's happy either. 
And the above copy/pasted comments on the dog don't read like they come
from a handler who is happy with the dog.  Not every dog and handler will mesh,  
it happens. Even if the dog is raised by that person from a puppy.

I would hazzard a guess that the OP is not quite prepared for even a medium
to lower drive working line puppy , it has to be quite a switch  to go from
American conformation dogs to 'harder' German bred dogs that have been 
tested and bred for generations to do some sort of demanding work.  
Perhaps this one was an 'oops' on the part of the breeder and the intended
owner, it just doesn't sound like a good match for either the dog or the handler.

The description written about the dog was written about his behavior BEFORE he washed from service.  He's actually doing very well in other areas (he actually washed out about a month ago).  Since I no longer have to stress about stopping the screaming and my anxiety has decreased (significantly) while he is being worked, the screaming itself has largely extinguished on its own.

He's actually a great dog to just be with, is a fabulous house dog, and a good traveling partner.  As the blog post says, he's not a good dog for service work, but it doesn't mean he doesn't fit into the other areas of things we do in this house.  As stated before, I am not inclined for him to leave.  He doesn't sit in a crate all day, he's inside with me all day (unless I'm running errands, and then he comes along when possible).  He enjoys a good romp at the fairgrounds, munching a good raw bone at home, harassing the cat (though the cat harasses him first).

We'll see how he takes to flyball.  Hoping to get his CD at the national.  He's certainly capable.

The switch in drives really hasn't been that miraculous.  I have another dog who is cross line, certainly isn't a low drive dog, but his thresholds are higher in some aspects than Mahler's, and lower than Mahler's in others.  A screaming dog isn't new to me.  However, the triggers that caused this particular dog to scream (Mahler) indicated a poor choice to continue in the line of SD work.

Now we're doing a bit of OB, continuing things like crate games, etc and I don't think he'll have any issues.  Nothing I can't deal with in a sport capacity.

He's always had nice focus, is great at picking up objects (and enjoys it) and is learning to help around the house, he just can't do public access work.